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Everyone on earth who is paying attention knows that reading the Constitution out loud is a giant, shallow, meaningless, downright idiotic publicity stunt.

Yet, cable covers it.

Cable enables.

That is all at this time.

http://www.denverpost.com/littwin/ci_17019359#ixzz1AFRuu6nG
It's bound to be the highlight of the session, which will then devolve into the usual bickering we've all come to expect and enjoy.

I mean, one minute you've got the member from, say, Montana reading from the preamble about the need to "insure domestic tranquility." And the next you'll have a fellow member introducing a decidedly untranquil attempt to repeal the health care law.




ENDLESS FACEBOOK ARGUMENT OVER STUPID WASTE OF TIME!
John Mcintire
Reading Constitution aloud on House Floor BIG FAT STUPID WASTE OF TIME.
GOP = BIG FAT STUPID WASTE OF TIME.
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John Mcintire ‎#panderingtomorons
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Shawn MacIntyre seems a bit Ironic, are they gonna skip over the parts they don't like?
End of Slavery, Women's Right to vote etc.
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Margaret Peggy Doffin A waste of time for us but for them they probable never ever send a copy
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Timmo Cawley same people who want to AMMEND THE PART ABOUT BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP.
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Bill McIntire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgRVNjsuycQ

Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore....
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Steve Latshaw It may be a waste of time for us. I think its a perfect history lesson for congress... many in Washington seemed to have forgotten the meaning in the document and the intent of those who drafted it. Sacred document, sacred words. Further, it's being read by Democrats as well as Republicans. Every action these politicians take should be governed by this document.
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Bob Von Scio Sacred? It's a constitution... a bunch of places have them.
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Steve Latshaw
It's not just a constitution. It's our constitution, a document many scholars consider the greatest written template for a free society in human history and the foundation upon which this country was built.
"We the People of the United St...ates, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."See More
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Bob Von Scio It is a charter document drafted by men... not some holy relic.
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Steve Latshaw
I never said it was a Holy Relic. I said it was sacred... and it is, to those who are grateful for the benefits this country has provided, those built this country, those who've served this country and those who've died to protect it. Yes..., it was drafted by men... the finest minds in the world, at the time; this document, along with the Bill of Rights, are much, much more than charter documents. They are the basis for our laws and our way of life in this nation... far from perfect but better than anything else out there...See More
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Bob Von Scio That is debatable ("better than anything else out there")... and I would content that the gratitude of those you speak of may be misplaced...
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Steve Latshaw
I think the word you're trying to find is "contend," not content. Those I speak of as being grateful to live in this country would include myself and my son, who is presently serving in the US Military. Why would our gratitude at living a...nd working in this country be misplaced? Are we misinformed? Is life, for us, actually worse than we realize? I never had any idea I had it so bad. Amazing. As for your view that our country being a better place is "debatable" why haven't you left? It seems that might be the perfect solution for you. Get up and go. Why subject yourself to the horror of living in the United States any longer?See More
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Bob Von Scio
You are correct, that was a typo. Your assertion was "I said it was sacred... and it is, to those who are grateful for the benefits this country has provided, those built this country, those who've served this country and those who've died... to protect it. "

To place your gratitude with an inanimate document that merely serves as a blueprint for a political system is to misplace your gratitude. To default to a position that America is somehow "the greatest" in a generic, yet quantifiable way is naive. Are you misinformed? Perhaps. I don't know enough about what you believe to be fact nor do I know why you believe as such. You may be perfectly well-informed, yet arrive at a different conclusion than I do. Both are entirely legitimate possibilities.

Why haven't I left? The reasons are myriad. For one, this country suits me for the time being. It's "good enough." Other reasons include language barriers, employment opportunities, and cost of relocation. But just because I live here, I don't automatically declare that it's "the best." There are 6.7 billion people who don't live here... by your logic, they've deemed the US to not be the best. France is best for the French. Nepal is the best for the Nepali. Japan is the best for the Japanese. I ate some pretty good pasta last night... but I dare not declare that it was the best pasta ever... who could conclude such a thing? We do some things good and other things are done better by other countries. It's always going to be that way.See More
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Steve Latshaw
I never said America was "the greatest." I said it had a better system than anything else out there. It does. Your presence here, despite the obvious agony it causes you, is proof of that. It "suits" you, for the time being. Am I misin...formed? I resent the question. Are you a liberal? This seems to be the default position for anyone who considers themself a liberal; their response to anyone who disagrees with them is that they are "misinformed." Again, you can't have it both ways. Love it or leave it, as they used to say in the 1960s. To stay and joy the benefits while badmouthing the country and constitution that provides those benefits is nothing less than hipocracy.See More
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Bob Von Scio
Did you read what I said? I said you may or may not be misinformed... I don't have enough information to conclude one way or the other. How do you quantify that the American system is better than anything else? What exactly do you consider ...to be the "American system?" What, exactly, is better and how do you conclude that? What exactly am I "badmouthing" about anything? What leads you to believe that I am in some sort of agony? I think you are inferring things that have not been explicitly stated. I doubt we'll make much headway on such a nebulous topic... why don't we boil this down to something specific? Make a case for a specific thing that America does best and then prove how other countries fall short due to their inferior documentation. Because that is what we are talking about, right? America is number 1 because our constitution kicks ass, right? I apologize if that strikes me as retarded.See More
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Steve Latshaw
Easy one. Let's try Freedom of Speech, which is part of the Bill of Rights, companion to the Constitution. We have the freedom to say what we want in this country, at least for the time being. How does that compare to China? Or Russia? ... Or Iran? Mexico? Even Canada, where Political Correctness is enforced by law. What happens in any of these other countries (or many others) when you dare to speak your mind or bad mouth the ruling parties, country leaders or constitution? Prison... exile... execution... that doesn't exactly compare well with us, now does it?See More
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Bob Von Scio
Unfortunately for your position, the rest of the world is not "china, russia, iran, mexico and canada."--- There are plenty of places on earth where your right to expression is as robust as it is in America, if not more so. In fact, if you ...consider "media" to be a form of speech, there are places that put the US to shame. Consider the bruhaha over wikileaks, for example... we had elected officials from both parties in the US calling for Assange's arrest and execution... EXECUTION. Simply for making printed text available to anyone who wants to read it. I don't have time to check on which country is which, but I believe Finland has determined broadband access at a minimum of 1mbps is a basic right... that Fins have a right by virtue of being in Finland to have access to the sum of the world's digital data. South American broadcast standards make the US airwaves look like the church-lady's public access channel. There are many civilized locations around the world where people have "freedom of speech..." in addition to freedom of assembly and right to petition their government... the difference is, if you look at other countries, their citizens actually utilize those rights. Sure, there were a couple picnics in DC this past year... it doesn't compare with the protests and petitions in places where the population actually believes it can directly affect change.See More
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Bob Von Scio PS- this is an interesting conversation... it would be cool if other people chimed in.
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Steve Latshaw
Again, you can't change the rules... you asked "Make a case for a specific thing that America does best and then prove how other countries fall short due to their inferior documentation." I gave you an example and listed 5 different countr...ies who fall short. So you lose the point and widen the argument, to protect your position, which makes this tiresome exchange increasingly pointless. As before, I'd suggest a long trip; I'm sure you'll find your happiness somewhere outside our borders. I hear Finland is a blast this time of year.See More
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Bob Von Scio I haven't changed the rules... the US does "free speech" better than the 5 countries you mentioned... but it does not do it "best"-- Beating Mexico does not make you the best... it makes you better than Mexico
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Stuart James Personally, I think our Constitution need the "Vote of Confidence" that so many other democracies have. I'd like to kick them ALL out.
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Steve Latshaw Back to my original point. I think, Stuart, reading the constitution is a very appropriate punishment for both sides of the aisle. And I'm with you... I'd like to see a way to throw the bums out. Though it doesn't always work... in California we threw Gray Davis out of the Governor's office in order to vote Arnold in... and we're still paying the terrible price for that one...
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Bill McIntire I'm sorry but America does NOT have a 'better' system than any place else. Only those deluded by brainwashing would offer such a ridiculous assertion.
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Steve Latshaw
It begs the question Bill... if I'm so brainwashed and deluded and ridiculously assertive... and things in the USA are so bad... what in the hell are you doing here? Tell you what... let's play a little game. Name one country that offers ...a better standard of living AND personal freedom. Here's the qualifier. Has to be better in every respect... from esthetics, countryside, to national defense power, health care, economy, politcal system, availability of affordable goods and services, fuel, economy, entertainment, freedom of speech, religion, of thought, and opportunity to succeed. Everything's on the table. It's a collective accounting. We're far from perfect, but the sum total outweighs the parts... ready, set, go...See More
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Bob Von Scio
Better standard of living - Norway, new Zealand, Australia (according to the human development index 2010 report). Personal freedom? By what metric? What freedom would I give up by virtue of being norwegian? As far as aesthetics? That's not... really quantifiable, is it? National defense? How about not being so provocative as to need a military bigger than the next 10 combined? Health care? There are at least 30 countries ahead of us there... Economy? We aren't number one in GDP per capita, income per capita, income distribution, or leisure time per capita. Fuel? Some places actually have good public transportation... But Kuwait has high per capita income AND cheaper gas. Freedom of speech, thought and religion? Most of the low countries beat us on that as I said earlier. Entertainment is too subjective. All I need is an Internet connection and a place to grow tomatoes (and access to scotch) and I'm good. So, of your list, we are "best" in exactly one measurement: we have the biggest army on earth. Yay.See More
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Steve Latshaw
You read the rules wrong, Bob. We're trying to hold to Bill's standard, here... it has to be one country who has everything better than us.... you listed three who scored high in one or two categories (plus The Low Countries) but hit a big... fat zero with any single country who scored tops in all categories - which makes my point much more precisely than I possibly could. Health care? Talk to any poor bastard on Cuba, Canada or the UK's health system and they'll change your mind in a hurry. As for Kuwait's higher per capita income and cheaper gas... bought and paid for, at least in part, by that "Biggest army on earth" you're sneering at. Good on you.See More
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Bob Von Scio Your same standard would make every country "the best." By your standard, if we lived in Kuwait, the US would not be better than us (Kuwait) because our gas is cheaper. Every country is the best at something... No country is the best at enough things to "win."
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Bob Von Scio Ps- I don't know what you've heard on talk radio, but Canada and the UK's health care system are really good compared to ours. They bitch about it internally, but no one in Montreal would seriously entertain trading theirs for ours.
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Bob Von Scio For some reason, I cannot "like" your comments from my iPhone... Sorry, I'd like to "like" them
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Deborah Fox I agree --- GOP is a waste of time. I just do not understand them.
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John Mcintire
JESUS CHRIST THIS IS IDIOTIC!!! THE CONSTITUTION IS **NOT** SACRED, UNLESS OF COURSE YOU BELIEVE SLAVES ARE ONLY 3/5 HUMAN (part of original Constitution... magically omitted from the reading aloud). IF IT WAS SACRED IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AMENDED ALL THOSE TIMES. THAT'S THE KIND OF HYPER "PATRIOTIC" THINKING WITHOUT **THINKING** THAT ELECTS IDIOTS LIKE BUSH AND GETS US INTO UNNECESSARY WARS LIKE IRAQ! We are NOT a Norman Freaking Rockwell painting. If it was SACRED, we wouldn't need an entire branch of government devoted to constantly interpreting and re-interpreting. And my original point stands... GIANT WASTE OF TIME!!! History Lesson? If these idiots don't already know about the Constitution we're even more pathetic thank I think.See More
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